Kevin Hillstrom: MineThatData: The Evolution Has Been Happening For Five Years


Here’s the framework I am working on … as I learn more, I reserve the right to change the framework.


My hypothesis.

  • COVID changed how marketers “market” to customers, teaching a generation of marketers how to use a fusion of video and community (which both existed prior to COVID) increasingly fueled by AI (#tiktok) to sell to customers who “trust” those making the content.
  • As more brands become good at Customer Media Marketing, response leaks out of Direct Response Marketing and Brand Marketing, causing those disciplines to become less effective.
  • As Direct Response Marketing becomes less effective, more brands attempt to get the clicks that remain, driving up costs in a discipline that is simultaneously becoming less effective.
  • Direct Response Marketers, instead of embracing Customer Media Marketing, embrace Product Marketing channels like Marketplaces (i.e. Amazon), where they continue the tradition of paying a nominal fee for access to customers … ultimately transitioning from being a Direct Response Marketer to being a supplier for a Marketplace. The Direct Response Marketer becomes the “Dries Van Noten” to Nordstrom.

Obviously, Direct Response Marketing isn’t “dead” as a small number of pundits might say. Rather, this is the end of an era. At some point, Customer Media Marketing will become too crowded, and a newer and more relevant version of Direct Response Marketing will emerge. But for today? Change is in the air.

Why do I think change is in the air?

When I analyze your data, there are clear trends, trends that accelerated post-COVID.

  • Loyal Customers generally have similar repurchase rates over time.
  • All other Customers generally have lower repurchase rates than they had in 2015-2019.
  • Regardless of Direct Response business model, it is becoming VERY difficult to acquire new customers at a reasonable cost.
There was a day a year ago when this all really started to click for me. I’m analyzing customer behavior (a hollowed-out middle of the customer file paired with customer acquisition challenges) while watching a Headphones.com video about open-backed headphones … meanwhile my wife is in her office watching live coverage of a “national de-cluttering day” … an all-day seminar hosted by de-cluttering experts. I don’t even know if this is the right link, if wrong, it’s similar … maybe this one. That woman has a million followers and several hundred thousand views of popular videos. I mean, Joe Rogan and his ilk gets all the attention … but this stuff is everywhere, bubbling under the surface … and it is increasingly linked to ecommerce (i.e. Headphones.com).

As a commenter said to me on LinkedIn … “YouTube is now the primary lead gen source for many businesses”.

Once you see this … and then see the connection to Community and Action Streams (capturing customer interactions like visiting your forum or website … then sending streams of emails to customers based on their forum/website activity) … you realize that a chunk of activity that used to reside in Direct Response now resides in Customer Media Marketing.

This evolution has been happening for the past five years … we’re just noticing it now.

We will be happy to hear your thoughts

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